[The IRS] is part of the government. This fiction that somehow it's totally an independent agency is absurd. When George Shultz was the treasury secretary for Nixon, and the IRS commissioner at the time, Johnny Walters, came to see Shultz and said, "The White House wants me to audit this list of Democrats."
You know what George Shultz did? He said, "If they want me to do that, they can get a new treasury secretary."
He refused to do it.
Clearly [in the Obama administration's case], lots of people knew some of this, or should know it.
